Comments on: Ecclesiastical pet peeve http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/ecclesiastical-pet-peeve/ "Man is but a reed, the most feeble thing in nature, but he is a thinking reed" - Blaise Pascal Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:52:45 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Drew http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/ecclesiastical-pet-peeve/#comment-21034 Drew Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:08:48 +0000 http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/ecclesiastical-pet-peeve/#comment-21034 As my college chaplain once said, "Prayer is a subtle form of gossip in Christian communities". It truly does happen perhaps more often than it should... As my college chaplain once said, “Prayer is a subtle form of gossip in Christian communities”. It truly does happen perhaps more often than it should…

]]> By: Fr Chris http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/ecclesiastical-pet-peeve/#comment-21030 Fr Chris Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:31:11 +0000 http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/ecclesiastical-pet-peeve/#comment-21030 There is a form for confession during Eucharist, I think from one of the Enriching Our Worship books, that bugs me every time I hear it. It's used at the National Cathedral fairly regularly. It includes "forgive us the sins done on our behalf". Really problematic theology. There is a form for confession during Eucharist, I think from one of the Enriching Our Worship books, that bugs me every time I hear it. It’s used at the National Cathedral fairly regularly. It includes “forgive us the sins done on our behalf”. Really problematic theology.

]]> By: Lee http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/ecclesiastical-pet-peeve/#comment-21027 Lee Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:32:07 +0000 http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/ecclesiastical-pet-peeve/#comment-21027 The irony of it is that we often downplay the actual confession of sins, but then when the PotP roll around we spend a good deal of it ... confessing our (and other people's!) political sins. The irony of it is that we often downplay the actual confession of sins, but then when the PotP roll around we spend a good deal of it … confessing our (and other people’s!) political sins.

]]> By: Fr Chris http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/ecclesiastical-pet-peeve/#comment-21017 Fr Chris Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:39:04 +0000 http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/ecclesiastical-pet-peeve/#comment-21017 Not to make light of a very real concern, but I've come to believe that sometimes it's in the delivery. The TEC parish near me is fantastic -- steers far clear of politicizing the liturgy -- but they have an altar server who makes the prayers of the people, which I usually have mixed feeling about, sound like Prayer to Almighty God. It's pretty cool. I think -- and I gather the Pope does, too -- that a small cycle of fixed prayers would be much, much better than letting people make it up as they go along. If we have to have them, there probably needs to be a bit more quality control, as there is (should be) in the rest of the liturgy. Not to make light of a very real concern, but I’ve come to believe that sometimes it’s in the delivery. The TEC parish near me is fantastic — steers far clear of politicizing the liturgy — but they have an altar server who makes the prayers of the people, which I usually have mixed feeling about, sound like Prayer to Almighty God. It’s pretty cool.

I think — and I gather the Pope does, too — that a small cycle of fixed prayers would be much, much better than letting people make it up as they go along. If we have to have them, there probably needs to be a bit more quality control, as there is (should be) in the rest of the liturgy.

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